Hullo Najib! Quit exaggerating & deal with facts

In his address to the Umno general assembly, Najib Razak said:

“In the 20th century, we have seen cases of lynching in the United States, the holocaust tragedy in Europe, the slaughter of Palestinians in the Middle East and the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Rwanda.”

The accepted estimated figures are:

Holocaust: 6,000,000 Jews exterminated

Rwanda: 800,000 Tutsi massacred

Former Yugoslavia: “October 2009, the Research and Documentation Center in Sarajevo published its findings and found 97,214 persons dead, of whom 57,529 were soldiers” [ref. to Bosnian massacre]. — Wikipedia

Quite typically of politicking in the Muslim world, Najib sandwiches his “the slaughter of Palestinians” in between the deaths of 6 million Jews and 800,000 Tutsis.

What were the Palestinian casualties in massacres?
(sourced from Wiki)

Sabra and Shatila: 460 “this figure consists of “the dead counted by the Lebanese Red Cross, the International Red Cross, the Lebanese Civil Defense, the medical corps of the Lebanese army, and by relatives of the victims.”

Deir Yassin: “Jacques de Reynier, head of the International Red Cross delegation in Palestine, visited Deir Yassin on April 11, 1948 and observed “a total of more than 200 dead, men, women, and children.”

Jenin: 27 militants and 22 civilians according to Human Rights Watch

One of our regular readers Maz left this comment (reproduced below) in our previous posting.

Orang Asli Population (Perak, Pahang, etc.) in 1960: 600,000
Orang Asli Population (Perak, Pahang, etc.) in 2008: 100,000

‘Palestinian’ Population (Israel, Gaza and ‘West Bank’) in 1960: 800,000
‘Palestinian’ Population (“” “”) in 2008: 1.7 Million

Where is the GENOCIDE happening again ma ????

While we cannot at the moment verify Maz’s figure for the Orang Asli population in 1960 (it looks suspect) — input from other readers that can help clarify this is welcome — nonetheless, we get the point Maz is making about the Palestinian population having doubled, and not indicative of these people being wiped out.

DUA KALI LIMA (in the penchant for exaggeration) with Najib is Lim Guan Eng. See video where he slanders and slams Israel’s security services Mossad and Shin Bet 15 times within footage totalling a mere 2 minutes.

Transcription & translation:

2: 34 — “This Utusan Malaysia is like Shit Bet you know, like Mossad. It acts like Shin Bet and Mossad to kill, to defame, to character assassinate someone without proof. This Shit Bet Malaysia, this Mossad Malaysia, this Utusan-Shin Bet or Utusan-Mossad is printing a libel and a fraud without any basis.”

4: 28 — “But for Utusan Malaysia to try to link a cruel murder with political issues, I feel is very immoral, and as I said earlier it wants to character assassinate someone not unlike Shin Bet and Mossad Israel wanting to kill Palestinians. So now Utusan Malaysia is like Shin Bet and Mossad using unfounded issues to character assassinate someone.”

6: 20 — “This is why what was said by Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz is certainly true. This Utusan Malaysia is truly jahat lah. I feel they are even worse than that, (they’re) like Shin Bet and Mossad Israel in only wanting to kill people. … And I feel this is what is being played by Utusan Malaysia, not only jahat but using Shin Bet and Mossad Israel tactics to instill hatred among Malaysians. Utusan Malaysia is really dangerous.”

Comments
4 Responses to “Hullo Najib! Quit exaggerating & deal with facts”
  1. Maz says:

    HARTAL-YOU CAN VERIFY MY FIGURES FOR ORANG ASLI.
    If you (with good reason) might suspect Malaysian demographic
    figures, please consult Central Michigan University in the
    USA which is (for reasons I can’t explain) the official academic
    storehouse (in the USA) for Orang Asli studies. There are
    faculty at CMU (with email addresses) that can be queried
    about Orang Asli demographics and socio-economic
    development (or lack thereof) in Malaysia.

    In any event, I am sure honest academic Anthropologists at UM
    or UKM can provide Orang Asli demographic data. Feel free
    to consult them.
    ==================================================
    As for Najib’s balther:

    Slaughter’ of Palestinians eh ?

    Disseminating Fascist Islamic rhetoric plays well in Gaza, Tehran
    and Damascus, and building useless tall phallic structures might
    compensate for physiological deficiencies, but these ‘Syok Sendiri’
    megalomaniacal projects continue to enrage Malaysians of any sense
    and present Malaysia as an embarrassment to the global community
    of sane developed and advanced nations
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Hartal MSM: Maz, the reason we inserted the caveat on the Orang Asli population figure you provided was because:

    In 2003, there were 147,500 Orang Asli (0.6% of the Malaysian population of 24 million)

    In 1960, the Malayan population was estimated at 8.14 million. Your figure of 600,000 would make them 7.4% of the population — which is too high a ratio.

    The figures we got are 52,943 Orang Asli in 1969. It’s quite possible that they decreased from [say 60,000] in 1960 down to 53k in 1969. Your figures might make more sense if there was a typing error of an additional zero behind the 600,000 you cited.

    But thanks for the lead to CMU.

  2. Maz says:

    Naturally, Najib left out (among others):

    Darfur
    East Timor
    Kurdistan
    Armenians
    Berbers
    Bengalis (partition of East and West Pakistan in 1960s)
    Ibos (massacre of Biafran Ibos by Yoruba in Nigeria in 1960s)
    Copts in Egypt (perhaps not genocide strictly speaking
    but cultural Fascism against the Copts)

    It must be terribly uncomfortable to have to acknowledge
    ACTUAL genocide committed by one’s co-religionists
    agains fellow Ummah as well as Dhimmis…which is
    why such genocide by Muslims against Muslims and
    non-Muslims is rarely acknowledged.

  3. Maz says:

    If Malaysia were held to the same standards of tolerance and quality
    of life for all citizens, would Malaysia fare as well as Israel ?
    One wonders…..I do not recall the majority of Israelis saying
    “Israel is always right” or “Israel does not trangress human
    rights on occasion” which most Israelis (except a small fringe)
    would readily acknowledge (as I do) that the state is not perfect.
    But I wonder are there as many Malay human rights activists
    protesting in KL in defence of Malaysian-Chinese and Malaysian-Indian
    rights as there are Israeli NGOs and human rights groups (like
    b’Tselem and countless others) that openly defend Palestinians
    often with harsh criticism of their fellow Israeli Jews. And if
    a Malaysian Chinese (LGE surely not) were to shout in parliament
    “Death to Malaysia”, as numerous Knesset Arab-Israelis MPs
    have shouted “Death to Israel” inside the Israeli Parliament
    with no jail time as a consequence, what would be the result
    concommitant result in Malaysia ? Would Najib and the new
    new AG shout “ISA for them la !!”…..

  4. Maz says:

    Ethnocide Malaysian Style:
    Turning Aborigines into Malays
    Kirk Endicott and Robert Knox Dentan

    The Orang Asli (Malay for “Original People”) are the aborigines of Peninsular Malaysia.¹ Most of them descend from the Hoabinhians, stone tool-using hunter-gatherers who occupied the peninsula as early as 11,000 B.C. (Bellwood 1997: 155-171). Today Orang Asli comprise at least nineteen culturally and linguistically distinct groups. The largest are the Semai, Temiar, Jakun (Orang Hulu), and Temuan. In 1999 they numbered about 105,000, less than 0.5% of the total Malaysian population (Megan 1999). Orang Asli once were thinly scattered throughout the peninsula, but most were pushed back into the interior montane forests as the Malay population grew on the coastal plains and major river valleys. Most Orang Asli still live in rural and remote areas. Until recently they lived by various combinations of hunting, fishing, gathering, swidden farming, aboriculture, and trading forest products. Nowadays land development projects and government programs have turned many into rural peasants or day laborers.

    Since 1961 Malaysian officials have expressed a desire to “integrate” Orang Asli into the Malaysian “mainstream.” This has come to mean bringing them into the market economy, asserting political control over them, and assimilating them into the Malay ethnic category. Yet, despite continuous efforts by the federal Department of Aboriginal Affairs (Jabatan Hal Ehwal Orang Asli, or JHEOA), most Orang Asli still live on the fringes of Malaysian society, cut off from most social services, poorly educated, making a meager living. A 1993 census showed 80.8% of Orang Asli in poverty, 49.9% among the “poorest of the poor” (rakyat termiskin in Malay) (Ikram Jamaludin 1997; see also Todd 1990: 12; Mohd Tap 1990: 328, 471-472). Their health and nutrition are at about the same level as in 1960 (Khor Geok Lin 1994; Baer 1999).

    ===========================================================================
    Maz’s comments:

    There is no question, in my mind, that the ‘official’ (Malaysian Govt) figures for the 1960s are wrong.
    My quote for 2007 is roughly equivalent to the official figures but that’s coincidence and not why I
    justify my quote. Please consult CMU and anthropologists at UM and UKM. It is not conceivably possible,
    with a poverty rate of ~ 76 % and life expectancy of around 48-50 (well below the Malaysian average),
    that the Orang Asli population GREW from ~ 60,000 in 1960s to 150,000 (or so) in 2003-2007.
    Even given the 2.3 PGR (population growth rate) for Orang Asli, this in no way can exceed the mortality
    rate due to poverty and diisease. Orang Asli around 11,000 BC were the only indigenous
    ethnic group in Peninsular Malaysia and during the British period were largely left alone
    (except during the Emergency). While there never were large populations of Orang Asli
    even in pre-modern times (meaning above 1 million), I maintain the population was as hish as
    600,000 or so during the British period up to Independence. You also do not factor in that many ‘Malays’
    are ethnic Orang Asli and there are many mixed Malay-Orang Asli people in Perak, Pahang,
    Johor and Negri Sembilan, in particular. My figures includes mixed Orang Asli-Malays. Ironically, UMNO’s policy has been to ‘integrate’ Orang Asli into Malay(sian) society (meaning convert them to Islam
    essentially) yet UMNO’s policies and the personal views of many (note I did not say ALL)
    Malays are overtly racist and derogatory towards Orang Asli. Orang Asli epithets and jokes
    (as do Dayak and Iban cracks) abound even today among many Malaysians, unfortunately.
    Again, consult Orang Asli experts in Malaysia or overseas, and ask them what was the total (approximate)
    Orang Asli and Orang Asli-Malay mixed populations during the British period and immediately
    post-Independence. I wager they will say quite a bit more than 60,000 or even 150,000
    by a factor of about 10-4 x respectively.

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